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haha how trainwrecky
GYCW - Five of the Worst Games Ever (Don't Buy This) 1080p HD
i just love this (not expecting any reply because we know this is trainwrecks, people don't talk in here lol)
Ever heard of Can of
Ever heard of Can of Worms?
http://magweasel.com/2010/03/24/vasectomy-automata-1982/
Speccy seems to have a thing for oddball games more than every other 8bit computer.
haha no
ive never heard of that one but it looks great
wait we don't talk
wait we don't talk here?
nuts
where to people go to talk
We don't talk. We type.
We don't talk. We type. Admittedly it's a rather crude approximation of human speech, and let's not forget the learning curve of memorizing all these arcane symbols; yet I still hold out hope -- hear me out, fellow trainwreckians -- that if enough of us try typing, this form of communication will reach critical mass within three-score fortnights.
yeh you don't
i wouldnt say trainwrecks is a dead community because everyone is making games but then i see a lot of threads on the forums where people don't reply or i see all those people making A LOT OF GAMES (which i think is super awesome) but then no one talks about those games or leaves a single comment which i think is pretty sad. people sit down to make a game and invest some time and sure they are enjoying themselves and laughing about the stuff they've created but in 90% of the cases THAT seems to be this community.
to me thats really weird and there is no community spirit. i mean you can all go ahead now and insult me and be like: wtf do you even want you n00b
but thats how i am feeling about this place in a lot of cases.
i mean if everyone was talking about the games by other people and there was way more communication going on (with written text so don't be a smart ass and try to mock me) I think this place was way more motivating. I mean I am probably completely wrong and just a dick because in the end people make games. A lot of people make games but personally I am missing some kind of community spirit and like I've said some motivation.
I am like: hm what for?
I'm not referring to my own crap here but like I've said I see a lot of great games with 0 comments which I personally think is frustrating to the person who has made that game. In fact he could just create those in his own spare time and never submit those if no one is ever going to leave a single comment for his game.
The ideal Glorious Trainwreck page would go like this: A lot more people would talk about the games people have made and just leave a comment and also talk more in the forums which are pretty dead most of the time. I think it would really just be way cooler, would make me get the motivation to make more games and so on.
it's like writing a joke and no one is there to laugh about it. what's the point in it then?
so yeh feel free to disagree with me but I felt like expressing my honest opinion about Glorious Trainwrecks. You can now go ahead and stone me.
cheers
Okay, upon reading it again
Okay, upon reading it again my response was flippant and rude. I apologize for making a stupid joke on semantics when you have a real concern about this community's dynamics. I can completely understand how dispiriting it can be to release a game and not even know if anyone has played it, let alone enjoyed it.
One thing I personally need to improve upon is explicitly saying when I enjoy something. I have found myself falling into the bad habit of just rating a trainwreck five stars, maybe adding it to my favorites, or just saying something nitpicky about the mechanics of a game designed in two hours or quoting something from the game when I have enjoyed it. I also find it difficult to multitask game creation and IRC (the few times I do sign on IRC), which is where I suspect a significant, unrecorded portion of discussion an camaraderie occurs.
Thanks a lot for your reply
Thanks a lot for your reply on that. I mean I love this place and I love the stuff people do but most the time I see people make cool stuff and there is no rating or no comment. I think as long as people at least vote for a game it's okay but if a game doesn't even have a vote I pity the people. I vote on all the games I play and I try to leave comments. I think anything is better than nothing.
So seriously I don't want to be a drama queen here or a dick but I felt like addressing my opinion so I hope I didn't bother anyone with that.
I GUESS probably stuff happens in IRC but that's always at 5 AM in my time zone so I am way too knackered to stay in IRC :-P
Thanks a lot for your reply again. Glad to see someone read it :)
Too many games?
Too many games, perhaps? It seems like there's a lot of enthusiasm about making games, but few seem willing to take time out to just enjoy what people have created.
I've been trying to be
I've been trying to be better about leaving notes and rating the things I actually enjoy and play (usually one and the same). I've especially been trying to do so for newer members of the community, since when I joined, I worked really hard on and was pretty proud of my second KotMK game in June 2010, but to date it hasn't received a comment or a rating and I have no idea if it was ever played! That was kinda discouraging and after my next two games similarly got no reaction, I felt really unwelcome here and left for over a year until the Vector Kart and even kinda stopped making games at all in that time.
I think it's important to encourage creative output in members old and new, and I think more than just having a space to put quickie game creation, a way to do that is to actually show that someone appreciates what you're doing on some kind of level. I don't think it's about vanity and popularity, really. It just doesn't feel all that great to scream into a vacuum. The act of creation is grand in and of itself, but a bit of even nominal support goes a long way. It's why I love playing Minecraft (not even all that good a game game) on a server with friends, but playing on a solo map by myself is the most soul-deadening thing I've ever experienced.
Of course, after most jams, I've spent the majority of some weekend day on a game, and so I feel a little burnt out and want to get away from my computer for a bit. But I've been trying to come back and play and rate most of the games from that jam, especially the as-yet-uncommented ones. It's a wee bit sad to see a game sitting there with 0 stars and 0 comments. Has anyone ever even seen it?
Obviously we can't play them all. There are too damn many games, especially in an event like the Pirate Kart. But if all who participated in a KotMK or those who are regulars but dont' contribute to that specific event played just two or three others' games and let them know about it (even with just a star rating), I think that'd go a long way to fostering community. I myself am not as good about this as I'd like to be. I'm gonna play as much as I can off the GDC Kart, but I know I'm not gonna get through it all. But I"m gonna keep a special eye out for the newbie games and others unplayed.
Anyway, those are my thoughts! They kinda ballooned out of control.
Thank you for sharing your
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences! It's definitely an important part of making something to share it with others; that's why we worked so hard getting the streaming and tweeting to work for the GDC Kart. I'm certain we could be doing better, and suggestions for things we could do to make it more painless for people to try other peoples' things and leave feedback are very much appreciated.
I'm really excited about
I'm really excited about what the GDC Kart experience means for the community, actually. For one thing, it's grown. For another, I feel like a lot of us connected more (in person and online) than we have in a while. I really feel like I'm a part of the community now, and this is my favorite place to be on the Internet these days. I really like the atmosphere, despite my quibbles above.
The GDC Kart was handled magnificently, by the way. It may seem a little extraordinarily sappy to say this, but I'm deeply, deeply grateful to you and Mike (and others!) for everything you've done to pull these events together and keep GT running. This Pirate Kart has been one of the most exhilarating experiences of my life, creatively. We've got something special and wonderful here.
Just beat World Shmup 2010
Just beat World Shmup 2010 for the first time, since you mentioned it. It's a great game! The ending was hilariously expected.
Your encouraging comments have not gone unnoticed, you've been doing a ton and I think it's great. I've been trying to leave as many as possible too. Lack of feedback is an issue with this site, but like you said, with over 2000 games on here I'm not surprised.
Heh, thanks for playing it.
Heh, thanks for playing it. That's kind of a bit cathartic to hear!
I've noticed you've been doing a lot of feedback-giving lately (and have been for a while!), and I really appreciate it. In fact, one of your comments on my Vector games really made me feel like a part of the community.
I welcomed you into the
I welcomed you into the community? That's funny. For some reason I felt like a newb here for a really long time. But when I was doing the credits for the Knytt Stories collaboration, I wound up looking at user numbers and realised something. Most of people I inexplicably thought were established members of the community actually joined the site after I did, including ExciteMike. In his case it's admittedly only by about 3 weeks, but... gosh.
Not sure where I was going with this, but you shared your experiences with the site so I thought I'd share too.
I totally agree with you,
I totally agree with you, thesycophant. I've got some people to join this site and also do something here but then they were like: "no one is really commenting on the games - how demotivating" and left.
I don't understand why people don't comment. Of course I know I could comment more (everyone could) but at least I try to comment as much as possible and I think I always tend to leave at least a few comments.
This is probably a problem of the whole internet and something I haven't understood yet.
I see some really great tumblr pages but no one leaves a comment to ANYTHING and I'm like "man why?". I also see other popular stuff where I can even see it has like 6000 views but I AM the only person who writes "this is GREAT why doesn't this have any comments?".
Personally I hate lurkers but it seems to me that 99% of the people on the Internet ARE lurkers and only 1% are actually ACTIVE on the Internet.
So all I can say is: please people don't be lurkers. Leave comments. It makes everything way more fun. People spend 1, 2 or even more hours on a game so you can spend 2 seconds on writing a comment. I think ANY comment goes. It doesn't have to be deep or smart.
ANY COMMENT IS BETTER THAN NO COMMENT AT ALL.
If you don't like writing stuff AT LEAST VOTE. seriously i just don't understand what the problem is with clicking on some bloomin stars.
I mean we are all in this together. Don't you find it to be a bit saddening to see if no one says anything about your games? Let's all change our attitude. It's a win win situation and will create such a great community spirit.
Hey, that's not unfair. I
Hey, that's not unfair. I only really come here for big events, but I like that's kind of an asynchronous community. It works on some level.