Pirate Kartwork: Your chance to contribute!

SpindleyQ's picture

Hey! Do you wish there was something you could do to contribute further to the 529-in-1 Klik & Play Pirate Kart II? Well, now there is!

In developing my TOP SECRET Win3.1 game launching solution, I realized that my homebuilt menu was looking a little lacking in comparison. No splash screen! No crazy icons! LET'S FIX THIS.

I'm hoping that some friendly folks in the community might be able to contribute the following:

  1. Splash screen graphic(s)! Let's say around 400x400 pixels. Should say, "529-in-1 Klik & Play Pirate Kart II: Klik Harder" on it somehow. Also, slap the Glorious Trainwrecks logo on there somewhere. If I get more than one, I'll write some code to pick one randomly at startup. If I don't get any, I guess I'll just paste our logo onto the splash screen I linked above in MSPaint.
  2. Background music! I mean, why not, this thing is going to be CD-ROM sized anyway. MIDI or MP3 format. Bonus points for original work. Extra bonus points for accordion playing. In fact, I might just bundle an album's worth of public domain polka music.
  3. Please make suggestions on how to "spruce up" my interface, with icons, amusing/anachronistic logos, abusive colour schemes, etc. (Note that the bottom pane will contain the screenshot / description of the game as an HTML page (with links to author information, the corrseponding glorioustrainwrecks page to comment, etc), and the "Random Sort" checkbox will soon become a button, probably marked "Shuffle".)

In general, I feel like the Pirate Kart menu ought to be a multimedia experience that bemuses and delights. I know we've got some talented people here, so if you feel like you have something you might like to add, go for it! I will attempt to incorporate as many contributed ideas and pieces of art as possible.

That menu needs more MS Sans

That menu needs more MS Sans Serif.

Terry's picture

> Bonus points for original

> Bonus points for original work. Extra bonus points for accordion playing.

I am totally on the case.

Here, have this to start!

snapman's picture

oh cool

Is that you playing the accordion?

zum's picture

Learning new and shocking

Learning new and shocking things about Terry ITT

SpindleyQ's picture

ACCORDION FIGHT (I'm a

ACCORDION FIGHT

(I'm a terrible accordion player)

RaveofRavendale's picture

Holy crap, Terry plays the

Holy crap, Terry plays the accordion?!

Radix's picture

integrate cgMusic or

integrate cgMusic or something and have totally random midis each time!

Dustin's picture

I sadly haven't made any

I sadly haven't made any accordion music (yet), but if you guys want you can use a couple songs I've made in the past couple of months. One's made with my little sister's toy piano, a couple closely qualify as chiptunes, and one's a drone-doom metal song made with a five string guitar. If you guys like 'em feel free to use 'em.

That waltz was pretty classy, Terry. =)

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snapman's picture

Stack it

Here's a title screen for 'ya.

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Pizza Time's picture

Just sayin'

This is pretty awesome.

snapman's picture

Can anybody name all the

Can anybody name all the titles? This is about half of my personal collection.

Pizza Time's picture

Jealous!

The only thing that matters is that you own Toonstruck and that I may soon be paying your home a visit so that I may steal it.

TheCube's picture

Oh god the original CD case to KnP

That is incredible. Floods of memories rush back to me now. I wonder if my dad still has that laying around.

I am also in awe of Toonstruck, BTW. I still have that disc somewhere, though I doubt it would work anymore.

sergiocornaga's picture

It will!

It seems to be a hobby of mine to get old games working on modern systems... and then never really play them. D:

I got Toonstruck functioning on both Windows XP and Windows Vista (using DOSbox, if I recall correctly) and I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of guides around for Toonstruck specifically if you ever get stuck. Do it!

snapman's picture

Categories for Buttons

Can you query the keywords entered to get us the smallest set needed to cover every single game? I think that category set would be much more interesting than "Racing" and "Puzzle" and "Casino".

SpindleyQ's picture

Do you mean, like, tags?

Do you mean, like, tags? Because I'm pretty sure that set is monstrous. Here, I posted some vaguely correct-looking stats.

ExciteMike's picture

Not sure how we feel about

Not sure how we feel about the infringin' going on in the first one, but I do like these images

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snapman's picture

Infringing?

I really like the highlighted Klipart, but you're kinda missing the words specified in bullet point one...

ExciteMike's picture

Oops

Yeah... I was fixing that, but now that someone has replied it doesn't let me edit that post :)


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Noyb's picture

KNP Sample Folder + Modplug Tracker = ?

Made a quick song in Modplug Tracker using only samples found in KNP's sample folder. Enjoy?

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Radix's picture

how can you rock this much

how can you rock this much

Crash's picture

Here is another song

Here is another song

SpindleyQ's picture

These songs are both

These songs are both amazing.

I just realized that my phone needs to play YEARGH.WAV when I get a text excuse me

BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE PERSPECTIVE TOOL

This comes in all-colour and 16-color variants!

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Danni's picture

Your interface doesn't waste

Your interface doesn't waste enough space. For starters, I think you should make those buttons, like, three times as large as they currently are (would make it more Windows 3.1-esque). It also could use some horribly pointless decorative image borders around the edges. I could design a few, if you like.

Edit: Where did Author Info go?

Edit 2: Another suggestion: Use ridiculous amounts of padding. Like, 20-30 pixels width in padding. Just like 3.1!

SpindleyQ's picture

I think the best way of

I think the best way of beefing up the button size is probably horrible button icons. Pointless borders sound like a pretty decent idea.

My biggest concern with tweaking the layout is that I still want it to be fairly usable. But then, given the terrible UX of this site, I'm not exactly in the best position to be judging that.

I'm currently thinking "Author info" will be a link in the game's description pane, but I could be persuaded to have an outside button or toggle.

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Pizza Time's picture

The thing that I love most

The thing that I love most about this is that everyone is holding hands.

Danni's picture

Wow, I didn't even notice

Wow, I didn't even notice that before you pointed it out.

SpindleyQ's picture

You people are beautiful and

You people are beautiful and I love you all.

Danni's picture

We should totally go with

We should totally go with the randomizer idea for the splash images. Would add a lot of depth to the menu, I think.

SpindleyQ's picture

I've kind of been thinking

I've kind of been thinking that, since the menu is actually generated programatically, we could potentially be really, really aggressive with user interface randomization. Like, the longer you play, the more likely that the font for the game list will periodically switch to Wingdings for a fraction of a second. Or have the interface colours change randomly every 15 seconds.

It also just occurred to me that having achievements would be awesome and terrible and awesome. ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: PLAYED EACH GAME 23 TIMES EXACTLY

god what am i getting myself into

snapman's picture

Achievements

If you do that, it should be a healthy mix of achievable goals, and completely impossible goals.

Played every game by [AUTHOR NAME].
Played every game in the Kart.

Played games for a total of 529 seconds.
Played games for a total of 529 minutes.
Played games for a total of 529 hours.
Played games for a total of 529 days.
Played games for a total of 529 years.

Or maybe more brain age style?
Played a game every day for a week.

Dustin's picture

Achievements II: ACHIEVE HARDER

Rhinobunga: Play A Boy and his Rhinoceros
A Winner Is You: Open the program
Achiever: Get an Achievement
All Right This is Rhinoceros: Get two Achievements
i have no life: Get 100 Achievements
Stalker: Click on someone's bio
They Always Come Back: Player exits the game

And all these splash pages are, dare I say it, glorious.

Danni's picture

Sounds great, but out of

Sounds great, but out of fairness, I think we should avoid game-specific achievements. Or have one achievement per game author. Which probably won't happen.

sergiocornaga's picture

I love the interface

I love the interface randomization idea! The weird, borderline epileptic textures of VVVVVV come to mind, but I imagine that might not be very fun to implement.

I'd also love to see a random game function where it scrolled really quickly through all the options at first and slowed down to land on one. Like a roulette wheel, or the Action Point awards ceremony.

Danni's picture

Or Mario Party (AKA "Random

Or Mario Party (AKA "Random Number Generator: The Game!").

ioshiin's picture

achievements oh yes :D oh

achievements oh yes :D

oh and look what i made in phoroshop

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daphaknee's picture

THIS ONE PICK THIS ONE

THIS ONE PICK THIS ONE

Danni's picture

It's Windows 3.1-ish

It's Windows 3.1-ish (complete with 16 colors, ugly bevels, and giant borders), and also slightly bootleg-ish:

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Danni's picture

Here's another one,

Here's another one, featuring that weird marketing guy (as seen here):

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Pizza Time's picture

I am excited, for this

I am excited, for this coming age of multimedia gaming.

Zecks's picture

i found a boxed edition!

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Strong's picture

I've written a rap song

I've written a rap song about the Kart, which I will record and such in the next couple days. It'll be pretty tight I'm excited about it.

snapman's picture

Links

When a user clicks a link to go to an author's site, play a sample like this

Looking back, that was such an amazing thing. It was an aesthetic fulfillment of what "the future" was supposed to sound like. Such a brilliant and stupid idea to force the everyday user to listen to the connection sounds...

Radix's picture

I feel I could still dial my

I feel I could still dial my old ISP by tone alone.

atuun's picture

uhh

So is the subtitle "Kart Harder" or "Klik Harder"? Both are used in separate threads on the main page.

I'm making a splash and a techno-polka song btw.

Danni's picture

I don't recall ever seeing

I don't recall ever seeing "Kart Harder" anywhere, so "Klik Harder" it is.

Edit: Oh, never mind, I see it. Yeah, it's still "Klik Harder".

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What the hell is going on in

What the hell is going on in that picture? Some blind guy using a duck as a seeing eye?

Radix's picture

Mmmmmaybe.

Mmmmmaybe.

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zum's picture

yes yes yes yes yes.

yes yes yes yes yes.

Radix's picture

!

!

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Dustin's picture

*drool*

*drool*

sergiocornaga's picture

!!!

Oh God this is so good I love you

zum's picture

GAUNTLET THROWN

GAUNTLET THROWN

Danni's picture

Good fucking LORD, this is

Good fucking LORD, this is THE best splash we've had so far.

Terry's picture

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THIS ONE PICK THIS ONE ITS

THIS ONE PICK THIS ONE ITS FUCKIN RAD

sergiocornaga's picture

Surely they will all be

Surely they will all be picked!

sergiocornaga's picture

Photoshop-tastic

Apparently the Chiller font debuted in 1995, so I guess it hasn't really got that Windows 3.1 vibe.

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Danni's picture

Maybe a TGF vibe, though.

Maybe a TGF vibe, though. I've seen plenty of TGF games with ridiculous fonts like that.

zum's picture

authentic pirate kart discovered

got a friend to dump the kart for me so i could get a good rip of the music

mp3 nsf

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Danni's picture

Yeees, it's the weird

Yeees, it's the weird text-to-speech.

So _that_ is how you make it sound weird - you throw it into an NES chiptune?

zum's picture

aaaggg what i do

rated tee for tees

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daphaknee's picture

THIS ONE THIS ONE

THIS ONE THIS ONE

sergiocornaga's picture

I made some splash screens

I made some splash screens out of screenshots of the more 'arty' games.

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zum's picture

ssssssss

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sergiocornaga's picture

I'm noticing a lot of banjos

I'm noticing a lot of banjos in your work... should I be concerned?

Healy's picture

Holy crap this is amazing.

Holy crap this is amazing.

GoreCore's picture

Glorious Trainwrecks

Glorious Trainwrecks Entertainment System should be a real thing. Just saying.

PyroMallet's picture

The best one.

The best one, hands down.

529 Greatest Hits

This one's based on slightly inaccurate memories of what those "100 Greatest Hits" albums' covers look like.

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Healy's picture

I really like this one.

I really like this one.

minimal529

Given the number of art games in the collection, this is perhaps a little bit appropriate.

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sergiocornaga's picture

BRILLIANT idea. But you have

BRILLIANT idea. But you have 841 squares there, not 529... a 23 by 23 block would produce 529.

.

OK, fine. Use this:

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sergiocornaga's picture

Hooray!

Hooray!

qrleon's picture

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Radix's picture

awesome

awesome

EdGreyshadow's picture

I truly apologize for not

I truly apologize for not being able to return to add any games to the Kart. Here's hoping this makes up for part of it.

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Healy's picture

This is just beautiful.

This is just beautiful.

GoreCore's picture

Best.

Best.

Pizza Time's picture

Brothers in ASCII

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SpindleyQ's picture

Gorgeous. Why do I never

Gorgeous. Why do I never see you on MarMOTS?

Pizza Time's picture

The shareware era

Because I keep forgetting about it.

Here is an ENDKART screen.

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The shareware era dies

And an error screen.

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Danni's picture

I think the error screen

I think the error screen should come up in place of the normal one maybe 5-10% of the time you exit.

Pizza Time's picture

I think that 5-10% of the

I think that 5-10% of the time an actual error should occur that causes that screen to appear. I also think that I should have saved those images differently so that they don't appear grainy thus breaking suspension of disbelief. I'll have to fix that up, later.

Pizza Time's picture

Use these ones they are correct

Like, totally fixed.

Of course, people are going to wonder what a pushwall is. Maybe I should change that part of the message before it goes in for real. Maybe change it to 'locomotive'.

Any other suggestions?

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Healy's picture

So hey, how about those


So hey, how about those interactive fiction type games, huh?

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GoreCore's picture

Please, please do not forget

Please, please do not forget about the cracktro

http://www.glorioustrainwrecks.com/node/446

download the tool and make something.

SpindleyQ's picture

Thank you for the reminder!

Thank you for the reminder! This is most important.

Hot Dog Stand

You must use the Hot Dog Stand color scheme.

http://28.media.tumblr.com/6GlrdALLj9ryery5qyWNhIIs_500.png

kirkjerk's picture

too late

Too late for new title screens?


Admittedly this is totally ripped from http://pictureisunrelated.com/
I just want to help keep the concept of "Totally Rhinoceros!" alive no matter how hard it is to spell.

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I really like this one. It

I really like this one. It reminds me of that awful almost-Myst 3D that would come on so many shareware CDs.

dessgeega's picture

collab with daphaknee

collab with daphaknee

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Pizza Time's picture

I see that you both

I see that you both graduated from the "lasers make everything better" school of thought.

GoreCore's picture

Just a few questions

As I haven't contributed any games, I'd like to make something in gui.

1. Are there any maximum dimensions for icons of genres?
2. What are the basic genres of games?
3. Will the menu run nicely in 1024.x768
4. Should I make a cover for dvd box? That would be classy, having such a collection among all those Mass Effects and Gears Of Wars.
5. What about making a VERY TOP SECRET GAME, hidden somewhere in interface, or being runnable by unlocking all the achievements?

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snapman's picture

Here are my guesses

Going by the tags SpindleyQ posted, the categories could be:
sjsu
art game
virtua
sports
marek
shooter
parody
mouse control
platformer
shmup
space
Dinosaur

...which is a pretty rhinoceros list if you ask me, but we should probably add a few general tags to cover all the games not included by these? Icons should probably be 32x32 16colors if we want to be historically accurate, but we could go up to 64x64 for visibility. And a DVD box is a good idea, I know I plan to burn this to plastic the moment I can.

SpindleyQ's picture

If someone's making genre

If someone's making genre icons I really think we should have one for "Jane Austen". I'll tag the damn games myself if I have to.

Danni's picture

I think the genre stuff

I think the genre stuff sounds like a great idea, but we really should tag more games. At the very least, I think our genres will have to cover perhaps half the collection (we could shove the rest under "weird/other" or something). Otherwise, it just becomes "featured tags" and not "genres".

Dustin's picture

We need to have an "AWESOME"

We need to have an "AWESOME" tag; obviously every game should be tagged.

qrleon's picture

So, someone just pointed out

So, someone just pointed out the Demon Attack box art to me.

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I just discovered a 1996 CD

I just discovered a 1996 CD containing "A Photographic Library of Dazzling Full Color, High Quality Images For Work, School and Home!" that I intend to use to create a few more title screens. Thank you, Swift Jewel!

When will you stop taking new title screens and music? There isn't any date listed on this...

SpindleyQ's picture

I don't see much point in

I don't see much point in setting a firm deadline, since all I have to do to add a new splash screen is save it to the "splash" directory. I'm happy to accept that kind of contribution right up until it's time to release.

As for when I'll be ready to release, it shouldn't be too much longer now. Extracting everything out of the database into a form I can use is proving more time consuming than I initially thought.

Sprite's picture

Can we still submit music? I

Can we still submit music? I recently found some truly awful stuff I made back in high school, all video game-ish.

SpindleyQ's picture

Sure, I haven't even gotten

Sure, I haven't even gotten the music player1 working yet, so there's plenty of time for that :)

Danni's picture

We ought to include

We ought to include ipanema.mid from the original Pirate Kart, simply because I thought it was the most awesome complementary music (though it's annoying how that menu no longer uses my default MIDI synth, nor plays at a bearable volume, ever since I installed Timidity++... I think it decided to switch to Microsoft's software synth for some weird reason).

http://www.glorioustrainwreck

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sergiocornaga's picture

Woo, Apple style!

Woo, Apple style!

Danni's picture

Ah, yes, the monochrome

Ah, yes, the monochrome graphics. I recall several old Mac games, though most were in color.

Say, does anyone remember Shufflepuck Cafe?

Edit: Just realized, that splash screen sorta exceeds the screen height employed by classic Macintosh systems...

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Oh wow :D

Oh wow :D

Healy's picture

This is just beautiful.

This is just beautiful.

GoreCore's picture

CGA, I miss you

CGA, I miss you

sergiocornaga's picture

CGA misses you too.

CGA misses you too.

leilei's picture

Your colors are incorrect. I

Your colors are incorrect. I JUST PROPERED YOUR IMAGES! It's also 3 kilobytes smaller!!!!

GReetZ GO OuT TO PAiNT ShOP PrO 5!!!!!

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snapman's picture

vaguely embarrasing!

Two title screens with photos from a 1996 clipart CD:

And three audio tracks from the 1996 CD "Music for Multimedia".

As a bonus, I've recorded one of those horrible audio instructions tracks that I remember some software collection CDs playing whenever you started them up. I'm the opposite of a professional voice actor, and it almost sounds appropriate in this context. (I thought of this because the Music for Multimedia CD starts with one of those instructional tracks) My first version was a bit too commercial sounding, though.

"Sold separately, this many games could cost over $15,000! But thanks to the information superhighway, we can make them available at a fraction of the cost. That's a savings of over $15,000!"

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zum's picture

Oh my god, these are so

Oh my god, these are so fantastic. The instructions are spot-on vintage WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF MULTIMEDIA.

ANNOUNCE.WAV makes me want to do aerobics with a brief synth-guitar solo interlude and MACHINE.WAV makes me want to rock out SO HARD (vaguely Zuntata-ish!?)

snapman i would love you forever if you ripped this whole CD

snapman's picture

Music for Multimedia

There really weren't that many other good tracks on the disk. The best tracks were all from the pop/rock folder, and then there was the "fantasy/atmospheric" folder that consisted of some idiot playing random notes on a synth pad for several minutes, and the story trax folder that had cliche comedic silent movie scores. Okay, I guess those don't sound too bad, but there were whole folders dedicated to "button sound effects" so you could have an echo-y minor key piano chord with every mouseclick of your multimedia project. Okay, I lied, the CD is pure gold. Where should I upload a zipped version of all the audio files and maybe the interface (win 3.1 compatible btw)?

I don't suppose the rights-holders will mind too much, seeing that their work sells for less than 4 dollars these days.

Hold on, what is this store? I think my google search for MFM has revealed a different Klik & Play Pirate Kart!

Somebody should mod the original to better fit this outstanding jewel case.

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Danni's picture

Ha ha, someone actually

Ha ha, someone actually decided to resell a Klik & Play example game?

leilei's picture

Well, It doesn't end there.

Well, It doesn't end there.

But hey! Toyland new for $6.99! AND ONLY ONE LEFT!!!

Strong's picture

I'm trying to imagine what

I'm trying to imagine what kind of cover Toyland would get. PROBABLY AN AWESOME ONE.

SpindleyQ's picture

Oh my GOD I feel so

Oh my GOD

I feel so compelled to own this.

zum's picture

I daresay SpindleyQ might be

I daresay SpindleyQ might be amenable to hostin' the audio on here -- otherwise, there's always Mediafire/Megaupload/etc. Are they all WAVs like your uploads? Midi? Redbook? Can you convert 'em to mp3?

PyroMallet's picture

It's not that hard to

It's not that hard to convert MIDIs to MP3. :B

PyroMallet's picture

upload it and I will love

upload it and I will love you forever

as for where you should upload it... how large are all the files combined?

GoreCore's picture

Some covers

which I present here to remake for great justice, as currently I'm working on a netbook w/o a mouse :C

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GoreCore's picture

ICONS

ICONS ICONS ICONS ICONS

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kirkjerk's picture

Can I say that there is a

Can I say that there is a certain hint of goatse.cx in some renditions (esp. red and black) "GT+2 trains" version of our logo?

zum's picture

no, but now i can't stop

no, but now i can't stop thinking "2trains1butt"

snapman's picture

It's supposed to be a

It's supposed to be a crossing sign crossed with a railway crossing sign. To indicate "trains will crash here".

Danni's picture

To me, it tends to look like

To me, it tends to look like a deviously grinning face and a pair of arms...

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ioshiin's picture

not like you need any more

not like you need any more of these D: but

also attached a stupid song, had to put it in a zip file. sorry :<

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SpindleyQ's picture

Oh god the song OH GOD

Oh god the song OH GOD YEAARRRGHH

It's so beautiful and terrifying and barely listenable and amazing and holy shit YES.

Danni's picture

Jumping on the bandwagon. I

Jumping on the bandwagon.

I think this is probably the only MIDI file I could import into ModPlug Tracker because it failed at proper timings for the other MIDIs when it's not even that hard to get right... anyone else know of ways to import MIDI so that the samples can be switched around?

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atuun's picture

I took a stab at it, and I

I took a stab at it, and I ended up just adjusting the tempo manually. The samples are easier to switch around by importing a .wav in the "Instruments" tab, NOT the "Samples", since the instruments are made up of lots of samples at different pitches you'd need to individually replace otherwise. I've attached an example .it file I threw together quickly. I don't know if you'll be able to tell what I've done just by looking at it (I have this suspicion I've maybe misunderstood your question though?)

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Danni's picture

Here, have some horrible

Here, have some horrible MIDIs I made for Klik games when I was 12 or whatever. Please don't use all of them, because I sorta don't wanna hear my awful music playing every single time I open the Kart.

Also includes a few WinGroove renders. Whoo.

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.KKliker's picture

We need to have a Klik & Play soundfont.

That would be the greatest thing since pureed awesome sauce with habrenaro peppers.

SpindleyQ's picture

Alright, have a small taste

Alright, have a small taste of my elite Schism Tracker skills. I had to cut down on the yeaaarghs a bit, but I think it's stronger for it in the end.

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.KKliker's picture

So, when's the release?

I've just noticed that it's been more than two weeks since the pirate kart was completed. Any chance of rolling these assets into an actual release anytime soon?

SpindleyQ's picture

Currently I'm fighting with

Currently I'm fighting with the music player, which has turned out to be way more irritating to implement than planned. Hopefully I should have a working solution implemented soon.

Not sure where/how to fit in the icons.

Still have some scraping tasks to do. (Bios in particular.)

Need to finish up the readme and/or NFO file.

Need an official cracktro.

Need to finish setting up a torrent tracker so that I don't get dinged for bandwidth overage when this monster is finally released and more than, say, 300 people want it.

GoreCore's picture

About the icons

Say, there would be three main sorting types of games:

- main theme (icons)
- by tags
- by authors

I think it's self explanatory. Cracktro will be done soon, but readme should be done by someone with enough writing-in-English skills (if we don't go chinese-engrish style).

SpindleyQ's picture

The problem is, who's going

The problem is, who's going to assign an icon to all 529 games? Even if you only took a minute to classify each game, that's 9 hours of work.

snapman's picture

SQL-fu

Is there a way to find the minimum number of tags necessary to cover every game in the database? It seemed like everybody was pretty good about tagging their games, and the autocomplete on that field made a lot of people use the exact same tags. There's got to be some query you can write that would return a minimum set of tags that we could use, instead of making new categories and categorizing them.

.KKliker's picture

Let us keep this thread relevant...

We must not let it die. I'm still waiting for the kart... <:(

Maybe we should have a Pirate Kart Icon Kreation Kontest (gratuitous use of the the letter k as substitute for c and unintentional reference to the KKK is gratuitious... and unintentional.). We should make people play each of the 529 games and create their own icon for it. The icon for each game will then be randomly selected (to save time) to be on the Kart.

This is what I think needs to be done. I know we've all kinda lost interest in this, but we said we were gonna do it, so we're gonna do it. I asked the Flying Spaghetti Monster about it. He said he'd give us all cookies.

SpindleyQ's picture

The solution I eventually

The solution I eventually came up with was to just assign the icons as "badges", which show up on the games' pages. Games can have multiple badges, and badges are assigned automatically based on keywords that show up in the title, description, tags, and in the case of the "textgames" badge, engine. I can post the list of keywords if anyone's interested, and if you can think of a game that absolutely must have a certain badge, we can try and figure out a useful keyword for it. (I'm spoiled because I can just type words into the search box of the menu to see what shows up :)

Not all games have badges, but I think that's probably OK. You can sort by badge name, which is kind of fun; a lot less daunting than the millions of tags. If people have any more ideas for badges that they might like to contribute, please do!

I'm sorry this has been taking so long; believe me that I really want to the Kart released as much, or more, as everyone else, if only so that I can work on something else :) The biggest roadblock has been that the time that I've had to work on it with Internet access available has been extremely limited -- I've been doing all of the development on the bus -- and the number of tasks that were completable without it has really dwindled down to nothing. I finally decided to solve that with PDANet, so things are moving smoothly again.

Rest assured: The Pirate Kart is coming, and you will be proud of it.

Danni's picture

I hope the tags view is

I hope the tags view is still in there, though? I thought it was really fun to look through the list of weird tags that the first Pirate Kart had ("Move from left-to-right simulator" was probably my favorite). The main thing I'm actually looking forward to with this (apart from downloading all the games at once) is to see a grand list of all the strange and wonderful tags that people have used.

SpindleyQ's picture

Of course, the tags list is

Of course, the tags list is still there. My guiding principle is simple: every idea goes in, somehow. The more ways to slice up the list of games, the better, I think.

.KKliker's picture

Are you done yet?

Are you done yet?

SpindleyQ's picture

Status update

Current todo list:

  1. Program icon (maybe the skeleton pirate from mojofltr's games by second graders?)
  2. generate screenshot / author image thumbnails
  3. The screenshots for four games are broken (one has a wrong extension, I think the rest are in a weird PNG format that IE won't render), fix and reupload
  4. Regenerate the menu data using the latest rating data / biographies from the database (this is pretty much a one-click operation)
  5. Build and host a torrent (torrent tracker is already set up)

Some "nice to have" things which I may not wait on before releasing but others may still feel free to contribute:

  1. Cracktro
  2. Icons for the giant "play" and "shuffle" buttons
  3. "dust on the kart" feature
  4. A nice installer which installs some appropriate DLLs, which could potentially cut down substantially on filesize but would probably take forever to build and test

Cracktro complete! Cooked

Cracktro complete! Cooked this up in MMF2. I dunno how you have the Pirate Kart set up, but assume the cracktro would then go on to launch the game browser. I just had it stop for now, but once it's time to release the compilation, I can add whatever functionality you need.

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SpindleyQ's picture

Slick! It's probably fine

Slick!

It's probably fine to just exit, rather than starting up the kart -- as far as I'm aware, the modern convention is just to have the little intro program sitting beside the actual game, rather than trying to force you to watch it before you're allowed to play.

Coolbeans. Wasn't sure how

Coolbeans. Wasn't sure how they worked. Just for fun I updated it with an icon. Woo!

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sergiocornaga's picture

This cracktro won't run on

This cracktro won't run on my computer... just like many real cracktros.

EDIT: turns out it was Norton being even stupider than usual. I will be rid of it soon...

Danni's picture

Battle of the

Battle of the Cracktros!

Here's the joketro I made in about two nights with (sloppy) C and Allegro. Featuring gratuitous high-color graphical effects that probably need a Pentium 4 or newer to run efficiently. Scroller text is pretty long, so Spacebar will accelerate it. I like this in particular because it has all the names of contributors to the Kart, and the music sounds like some grand finale rolling credits... a perfect way to top off our efforts!

It's a bit fat at 1MB, but it's mainly due to the 24-bit picture of the Gare Montparnasse in the background.

Edit: If we decide on the other joketro, perhaps I could retool this one to be some sort of credits/ending thing. Also, Shadsy should probably find a way to make the music louder. MMF2's built-in module playback is ridiculously quiet for some weird reason. Perhaps use the ModFX 3 extension?

Edit 2: Other remarks:

Shadsy's entry looks more like a real cracktro/demoscene intro, but I think we should continue the injoke of calling the fictitious cracking group the "Secret European Software Cracking Unit" as seen in the "cracked" version of Tek Demo. Also, mouse button presses should probably end the demo as well.

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Two hundred thumbs up

Haha, I love it. Definitely use that instead. It also works as a pseudo-credits, so that's awesome. :D

So true about the midterm thing.

SpindleyQ's picture

I see no reason not to

I see no reason not to include both! FAKE WAREZ GROUP GRUDGE MATCH AHOY

SO IT BEGINS

SO IT BEGINS. DYNAMX's cracktro now includes a disparaging message!

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Danni's picture

Umm, you aren't gonna have

Umm, you aren't gonna have both playing at the same _time_, are you?

Cracktro aside, are there

Cracktro aside, are there any other things on that list that other people could help out with? I'm super eager to see this thing get out the door.

SpindleyQ's picture

You'll be pleased to hear

You'll be pleased to hear that I am finally completely satisfied with the menu, and that the only things left on my plate are a little bit more testing (ie, installing it under a fresh copy of Windows XP in VirtualBox and making sure everything still works) and packaging (ie, running my script that scrapes all of the games, screenshots, ratings, etc. on the latest version of the database, 7-zipping the whole mess up, and building a torrent).

Expect a release soon.

snapman's picture

Implications

By any chance does this neat little system you've come up with mean that other "event packs" can be assembled in a more timely manner in the future?

SpindleyQ's picture

I've put some thought into

I've put some thought into this recently, actually. My current idea is that the Pirate Kart menu is actually not far off from a full-featured Glorious Trainwrecks game browser/downloader/launcher -- the idea being that you could simply run this thing after Klik of the Month Klub ended and bam! you would have a new games to play, as if by magic.

I haven't put forth any effort towards this idea yet, because I'm so eager to get the Pirate Kart out the door, but it's a beautiful dream.

I guess to answer your original question literally, there really isn't any reason I couldn't simply point my script at a different event and generate a whole new "Pirate Kart".

snapman's picture

Would you call it "Steam

Would you call it "Steam Engine"?

snapman's picture

This reminds me of how

This reminds me of how quickly August 15th is approaching. I'm also thinking of organizing another chainwreck before then...

Danni's picture

Woo, count me in. Would love

Woo, count me in. Would love to do both tech demos and chainwrecks.

Danni's picture

Poke. Ten days left...

Poke.

Ten days left...

snapman's picture

I think this year that will

I think this year that will be the kickoff date.

snapman's picture

Started work on the

Started work on the Invitation Demo last night. Also been watching a ton of demos on youtube and the like. The C64 and Amiga demos provide the best inspiration, since they depend a lot less on sparkly 3D rendering techniques, and more on clever effects accomplished through masks and sprite effects. Those work a lot better in KnP.